Legislature(2021 - 2022)DAVIS 106

04/06/2022 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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08:00:33 AM Start
08:01:22 AM HB413
08:31:46 AM Adjourn
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*+ HB 413 FACILITIES CONSTITUTING A SCHOOL TELECONFERENCED
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             HB 413-FACILITIES CONSTITUTING A SCHOOL                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:01:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND  announced that  the  only  order of  business                                                               
would  be HOUSE  BILL NO.  413,  "An Act  relating to  facilities                                                               
constituting a school; and providing for an effective date."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:01:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GEORGE  ASCOTT, Staff,  Representative Harriett  Drummond, Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature,  presented HB  413  on  behalf of  the  House                                                               
Education Standing Committee.  He  presented that HB 413 seeks to                                                               
remedy a funding formula that  negatively effects the Lower Yukon                                                               
School  District.   He  said  HB 413  would  add  three words  to                                                               
existing  law [AS  14.17.905]: "excluding  charter schools."   He                                                               
explained that the  district recently opened a  charter school in                                                               
Hooper Bay.   The  community is  now seen  as having  two schools                                                               
instead of  one.   Through the current  formula, the  addition of                                                               
the charter  school reduces  the district's  funding by  about $1                                                               
million  [per  funding year].    He  suggested while  the  school                                                               
district  tried  to  provide  a wider  variety  of  services  for                                                               
students   without  increasing   costs,   it  was   inadvertently                                                               
punished.  He  stated the proposed bill has an  effective date of                                                               
July 1, 2022.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:03:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GENE  STONE,  Chief  School  Administrator,  Lower  Yukon  School                                                               
District,  related  that he  had  worked  in Lower  Yukon  School                                                               
District (LYSD) for five years, three  of those years as chief of                                                               
operations  and   the  past  two   years  as  the   chief  school                                                               
administrator.    He  continued   by  reading  from  his  written                                                               
testimony [available in the committee packet], as follows:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     On behalf of the Lower  Yukon School District, allow me                                                                    
     to express our appreciation  for the introduction of HB
     413.   The district is in  full support of HB  413.  HB
     413  will   remedy  a   funding  issue   that  unfairly                                                                    
     penalizes the  Lower Yukon School District  for opening                                                                    
     a charter  school in  Hooper Bay.   The  penalty within                                                                    
     the statute for  adding a charter school  in Hooper Bay                                                                    
     resulted  in   an  annual   reduction  in   funding  of                                                                    
     $1,033,000  for fiscal  year  2021  and $1,021,000  for                                                                    
     fiscal  year  2022.   Until  this  funding  penalty  is                                                                    
     remedied,  LYSD  will  lose  approximately  $1  million                                                                    
     annually.     The   district   operates  two   separate                                                                    
     educational  programs in  the  Hooper  Bay School:  the                                                                    
     conventional  K-12 school  [and] a  fourth- to  eighth-                                                                    
     grade  charter   school  that  features   a  culturally                                                                    
     relevant,  place-based  learning   curriculum  for  its                                                                    
     students.   Additionally,  the school  has a  K-3 Yupik                                                                    
     immersion  program  but  is not  part  of  the  charter                                                                    
     school  and  functions  as  part  of  the  conventional                                                                    
     school as  a special program.   Some may argue  that HB
     413 has  a fiscal  note to  the State  of Alaska  of $1                                                                    
     million annually.  LYSD sees  the opposite; to date our                                                                    
     loss  of  foundation  funding has  resulted  in  fiscal                                                                    
     surplus to the  state of $2 million  dollars for fiscal                                                                    
     year 21 and fiscal year 22.   As a result of the Hooper                                                                    
     Bay Charter  School, our district  has the  same number                                                                    
     of  students -  the exact  same students  - inside  the                                                                    
     same  school building,  and yet  we  realize a  funding                                                                    
     penalty of  over $1  million per year.   By  adding the                                                                    
     three   words  "excluding   charter   schools"  to   AS                                                                    
     14.17.905, the annual funding  penalty is remedied, and                                                                    
     it  becomes  feasible  to  fund  Hooper  Bay's  charter                                                                    
     school.  As it stands  now, the statute is punitive and                                                                    
     this  unintended  $1  million  annual  funding  penalty                                                                    
     impacts  our  entire  school district  and  effectively                                                                    
     jeopardizes  rural Alaskans'  access to  school choice.                                                                    
     HB 413  would remedy  this funding problem  and support                                                                    
     charter school equity for rural Alaska schools.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:07:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  asked  why  a separate  charter  school  is                                                               
needed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STONE  offered  his understanding  that  the  Department  of                                                               
Education  and Early  Development  (DEED)  responds favorably  to                                                               
school districts that  offer school choice.   He described Hooper                                                               
Bay as a "community that has  been, in many ways, underserved and                                                               
has  underperformed."    He  said the  district  should  not  "be                                                               
blamed"  for   operating  with  autonomy  and   trying  something                                                               
different.  The charter school  conversation had been ongoing for                                                               
several   years  in   LYSD,  but   once  approved,   timing  with                                                               
formulating  language, the  COVID-19  pandemic, and  a change  in                                                               
statute [AS  14.17.905] created a  more complicated process.   He                                                               
surmised  the district  shouldn't be  treated any  differently in                                                               
offering school choice.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:10:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND  asked Mr.  Stone  to  explain the  difference                                                               
between  the amount  of funding  in  the fiscal  note versus  the                                                               
amount in his opening statement  and to describe when the penalty                                                               
amounts would occur.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STONE  responded  that  the difference  is  because  of  the                                                               
average  daily membership  (ADM),  stating  these numbers  change                                                               
slightly every  year.  Due to  the ADM formula, the  funds waiver                                                               
from $20,000  to $50,000 [per  student] each  year.  He  said the                                                               
amount of funding  will be somewhere between $1  million and $1.1                                                               
million  annually.   In  response  to  a follow-up  question,  he                                                               
explained that the  district has already incurred  a penalty with                                                               
a loss of approximately $2 million.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND followed that  she understood a "relief period"                                                               
exists,   allowing  the   penalty   to   be  gradually   applied.                                                               
Considering the charter school opened  in the 2020 to 2021 school                                                               
year,  she said  it  seemed  the district  should  have had  some                                                               
fiscal relief prior to this point.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STONE said  there  had  been a  two-year  period before  the                                                               
charter  school   opened  when  waivers  were   provided  to  the                                                               
district.    But   the  timing  of  a  new   [provision  in]  the                                                               
aforementioned statute  addressing the  425 ADM  threshold, along                                                               
with the  opening of the  charter school, created a  "the perfect                                                               
storm."   At this time Mr.  Stone deferred to the  chief business                                                               
officer of the school district.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:13:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDREW  LEAVITT,  Chief  Business  Officer,  Lower  Yukon  School                                                               
District,  said Co-Chair  Drummond's understanding  of a  "relief                                                               
period" is  called a "hold  harmless provision."   This provision                                                               
addresses  decreased funding  due to  a  drop in  a school's  ADM                                                               
level.  He  said in this case the provision  was not "triggered,"                                                               
and  the district  did not  qualify  for a  gradual reduction  in                                                               
funding.   In response  to a follow-up  comment, he  affirmed Co-                                                               
Chair Drummond's  suggestion the provision did  not apply because                                                               
student population did not change.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:14:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY made two points.   First, she suggested the school                                                               
could reconfigure to  a "school within a school"  so the district                                                               
could retain  its funding.   Second,  she suggested  the proposed                                                               
legislation  could affect  the funding  of other  charter schools                                                               
statewide.    She referenced  the  Alaska  Association of  School                                                               
Business Officials (ALASBO) on this issue.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:16:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STONE  responded that a  "charter school"  designation allows                                                               
for choice  in programs.  He  gave the example of  a unique model                                                               
of a culturally relevant, place-based  program for fourth through                                                               
eighth  grades.   He  said  that research  shows  this age  group                                                               
responds  better to  activities  that have  "local  flavor."   He                                                               
added that the local and  state schoolboards back the initiative.                                                               
He also asserted  that the proposed legislation  would not impact                                                               
any other school in the state.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY stated  her support of school  choice but wondered                                                               
if  the  schoolboard  had  considered  solutions  to  the  LYSD's                                                               
problem with other  optional programs.  She  cited the Montessori                                                               
program in  the Juneau  School District  that offers  choice with                                                               
their  curriculum,  but it  is  not  called a  "charter  school."                                                               
Summarizing, she said  if the school were in  the original school                                                               
model  and  called  "an  optional  school,"  the  district  could                                                               
receive the $1 million lost in funding.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. STONE  responded that could be  done, but it skirts  the real                                                               
issue  and  denies   the  school  the  opportunity   to  have  an                                                               
independent school  and administration.   He  said if  the Hooper                                                               
Bay school  became a  "special mission  school," it  would remedy                                                               
the funding, but disallow choice.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY, seeking  verification that  other schools  would                                                               
not be  affected, suggested the  proposed legislation  could read                                                               
"excluding Hooper  Bay Charter School" versus  "excluding charter                                                               
schools."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:23:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELWIN BLACKWELL, School Finance  Manager, Department of Education                                                               
and Early Development, stated with  the proposed legislation only                                                               
LYSD  would be  affected  at this  time, as  there  are no  other                                                               
schools "anywhere  near 425 ADM"  in rural Alaska.   He continued                                                               
that in  2018 the  Hooper Bay Charter  School first  exceeded 425                                                               
ADM,  changing funding  for the  school from  two adjustments  to                                                               
one.   He said, as a  remedy, the statute was  changed; but, when                                                               
the charter  school was approved  in 2020, the district  was seen                                                               
as having  two schools and "that  knocked them out of  that fix."                                                               
The proposed change in the  statute, "excluding charter schools,"                                                               
would again qualify the K-12 facility for the two adjustments.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:24:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEAVITT, in  response  to a  question  from Co-Chair  Story,                                                               
clarified the number of students in  the charter school as 47 and                                                               
the number in K-12 as 421.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:27:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL responded  to Co-Chair Story that  urban areas will                                                               
not be  affected because the  ADM in  these schools is  far above                                                               
the 425 threshold,  and urban areas already  have multiple school                                                               
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:28:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CRONK  inquired  about  the  plans  to  take  the                                                               
charter school out of the K-12 facility.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:28:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STONE responded  that the charter school  is currently housed                                                               
in Hooper  Bay's conventional school.   The intention is  for the                                                               
charter  school  to have  its  own  facility through  grants  and                                                               
budget surpluses.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:29:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND opened  public  testimony on  HB  413.   After                                                               
ascertaining there was  no one who wished to  testify, she closed                                                               
public testimony.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:30:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND  would  like  to know  the  specifics  of  the                                                               
charter school's contract, stating that  once a charter school is                                                               
opened, it is difficult to close.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:30:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEAVITT responded that the  charter school started officially                                                               
July 1, 2020, initially with a  five-year contract.  To a follow-                                                               
up question, he  said he believed the contract would  be up for a                                                               
review and  renewal in five  years, and then  after that it  is a                                                               
10-year contract.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:31:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DRUMMOND announced that HB 413 was held over.                                                                             

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 413 and SB 236 Fiscal Note (FP).pdf HEDC 4/6/2022 8:00:00 AM
HB 413
SB 236
HB 413 and SB 236 Fiscal Note (PEF).pdf HEDC 4/6/2022 8:00:00 AM
HB 413
SB 236
HB 413 Committee Packet 4.6.2022.pdf HEDC 4/6/2022 8:00:00 AM
HB 413
HB 413 SB 236 LYSD Letter.pdf HEDC 4/6/2022 8:00:00 AM
HB 413
SB 236
HB 413 Sponsor Statement.pdf HEDC 4/6/2022 8:00:00 AM
HB 413
Supporting Testimony for HB 413 LYSD.pdf HEDC 4/6/2022 8:00:00 AM
HB 413
HB0413A.PDF HEDC 4/6/2022 8:00:00 AM
HB 413